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Fifty-nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 9/11 - Journal of Omnifarious

Jul. 26th, 2004

10:33 pm - Fifty-nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 9/11

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Fifty-nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 9/11

This is a pretty good article, and the author seems very fair and detailed in how he dissects things. I feel that the republican press is far more guilty of using techniques like these, but I don't think that excuses Moore.

Actually, I don't think that. The republican press uses a rather different set of techniques that are aimed at achieving a similar result. *think* Moore uses half truths and sometimes outright lies to create very misleading impressions and stories. Fox, Limbaugh and others tend to deny that the other side's point of view even exists, and accuse people who don't agree with them of the most ridiculous 'crimes'.

As examples, Ann Coulter calling people 'treasonous'. Or Rush Limbaugh minimizing various forms of torture as 'soldiers blowing off steam' as if the very idea that a republican government could be responsible for torture were unthinkable.

I still don't think that excuses Michael Moore.

I hesitate to say conservative or liberal because I don't think those labels really have any useful meaning. I don't like either the democrats or the republicans. I think they both lead people on about their agenda while having a not-so-visible agenda that their big money backers pay them to carry out.

Edit 08:27 2004/07/27: I made examples of the republican press rhetorical techniques more specific in order to avoid accusing Rush Limbaugh of calling people 'treasonous' when I don't know that to be the case.

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From:qob
Date:July 27th, 2004 06:48 am (UTC)
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When have you heard Limbaugh call some one treasonous?
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From:omnifarious
Date:July 27th, 2004 07:21 am (UTC)
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I haven't. That's the province of Anne Coulter.

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From:qob
Date:July 27th, 2004 07:26 am (UTC)

well

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not to be anal but don't accuse him of doing what others do and he doesn't.
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From:omnifarious
Date:July 27th, 2004 07:52 am (UTC)

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If you'll read, you'll see that I did not specifically acuse Rush Limbaugh in particular of calling people treasonous. I said "Rush Limbaugh and others" and I listed 'treasonous' as but one example, not assigned to any specific person.

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From:qob
Date:July 27th, 2004 08:12 am (UTC)

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ok. we're cool, but I felt it needed to be clearer and we've done that.
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From:omnifarious
Date:July 27th, 2004 08:30 am (UTC)

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I edited it to make it clearer.

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From:lunasoleil
Date:July 27th, 2004 07:02 am (UTC)
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Personally, I never thought the film was meant to be an absolute fact-driven documentary. Government is very good at letting the people see only what they want us to see. I think Moore was taking that information and providing a different point of view. I noticed a few places where Moore would show something but in reality we really don't know what really happened.

Example, when Moore shows Bush in the classroom of kids and says he's just been told the towers were under attack and he just sits there, do we *really* know that's what the secret service guy told him? I remember when the towers were hit that the media said Bush was in the middle of giving a speech to the entire school when he received the news, in which case we quickly concluded the visit and left.

I'm not a Bush supporter, just think the film was to show people there's different points of view other than the one the government wants us to believe. So many people follow our government blindly, I thought the film was a good wake up call (assuming those people even bothered to see the movie...)
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From:omnifarious
Date:July 27th, 2004 07:21 am (UTC)
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I kind of agree with this point of view on the film as well.

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