?

Log in

No account? Create an account

I'm all for finding the fulcrum - Journal of Omnifarious

Dec. 30th, 2008

09:16 am - I'm all for finding the fulcrum

Previous Entry Share Next Entry

I like government that is as small as possible. One of the tricks to making this happen is making very intelligent and future thinking choices that are easy to implement and have a broad impact. The problem is, it's much easier to see symptoms and try to treat them, and that's what usually happens.

One thing I think would be easy, and would definitely treat a cause is to repeal corporate personhood. And you can go to that link and vote for that idea on change.org. And the idea needs votes. I think that it seems kind of esoteric and remote to most people and so doesn't get the attention it deserves.

Current Mood: [mood icon] hopeful

Comments:

[User Picture]
From:xerhino
Date:December 30th, 2008 07:21 pm (UTC)
(Link)
I would have liked to see a more detailed analysis or even a pro/con list, but I was already familiar with this idea. Corporations have many allowances ( see the /etc/govt/allow file ) that are too easily abused. Someone should hire "ethical hackers" to expose the vulnerabilities.

Also, I read "juristic persons" as "jurassic persons" the first time through, so maybe I should slow down.
(Reply) (Thread)
From:pleiade37
Date:December 30th, 2008 07:48 pm (UTC)
(Link)
(Reply) (Thread)
[User Picture]
From:omnifarious
Date:December 30th, 2008 08:15 pm (UTC)
(Link)

That is an interesting point. Right now, AFAIK, you can only effectively bring a corporation into court over a civil matter, unless it's the Sherman Antitrust Act. I think that's an interesting level of immunity they already have. But punishment for a corporation isn't the same as punishment for a person, so I don't really know how you would put them under the aegis of criminal law.

OTOH, I don't think corporations can be said the have rights under the bill of rights. In many ways the rights of public companies are severely abridged. Reporting requirements can easily be thought of as 5th amendment violations. But I don't think that they have 1st amendment rights. I think individuals definitely do, but I don't think companies, especially public ones, do. But this opinion of mine contradicts case law, AFAIK.

So I think that the issue is a lot murkier than the black & white portrayal implied by the little blurb to be voted on.

(Reply) (Parent) (Thread)
From:hattifattener
Date:December 30th, 2008 08:41 pm (UTC)
(Link)
Well, especially since corporate personhood only came about because of a transcription error in 1886 — it was never actually enacted. (Of course, it's supported by case law now.)

I don't believe this has a chance in hell of getting past lobbyists, even in a happy fun Obama administration, but I added my vote anyway. :)
(Reply) (Thread)