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May. 26th, 2003

10:33 am - Michael Moore's website hacked

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Someone hacked Michael Moore's (creator of 'Bowling for Columbine') website to make a political statement. I can't say as I completely agree with those who hacked it, but they do have some interesting points.

Here's a link to a captured image from the hacked site:
Michael Moore's hacked website

Ed note 13:27: Of the various things linked to, the most cogent and well though out piece is Truth About Bowling. It makes a good case that Michael Moore's treatment of the subject could be called deception and fabrication in several cases, not just bias.

One that that particularly irritated me to learn about was that the connection between the KKK and the NRA is, if anything, precisely opposite to the one implied by Michael Moore.

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From:agnosticfont
Date:May 26th, 2003 09:50 am (UTC)
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Hmmm they dont present any evidence (quotes they disagree with, conflicting figures, sworn statements) either as part of this hack or own their own website.

Their main arguement seems to be "Michael Moore said some nasty things about America and guns - lets get his oscar taken away even if we admit that theres no process in place to do this".

To me (and I admit I could be off base) but they just sound like angry gun fans to me.
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From:omnifarious
Date:May 26th, 2003 10:52 am (UTC)
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They do. They talk about speeches by Mr. Heston that were inartfully edited and such.

And, Michael Moore says very little that is directly bad about guns. He in fact mentions that guns are far more widely owned in Canada than in the US.

They also attack the reasoning that Michael Moore encourages you to engage in.

In fact, the site Truth About Bowling carefully lists, in detail, a number of ways in which the film carefully edits scenes to create false impressions. In fact, the film almost goes to the length of splicing together words that someone has said to make it seem like they said something they didn't. Their complaint is not as frivolous and silly as you make it out to be.

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From:agnosticfont
Date:May 26th, 2003 01:38 pm (UTC)
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Their complaint is not as frivolous and silly as you make it out to be.

True enough and now that I have looked at the other links I see your point.

I guess my arguement should have been that if you *dont* want to look like a loony, then hacking someone elses site probably doesnt set you off in the right direction.

And their site doesnt give that much factual evidence that was immediately obvious to me (ie where in the video is the cut&pasted interview ?), which probably didnt help either.

IIRC isnt one of his major arguements that guns cause violence ? If that were true why do the Swiss (the most heavily armed civilians in the world [1]) have one of the lowest murder rates in the world ?

I do believe that machines specifically designed to kill people should not be in the hands of civilians who annecdotally dont appear to have much training or procedural weapons handling techniques (ie load, make ready, make safe & unload to use british army language). [2]

But to an outsider I dont believe America is ready for that (and may never be).


[1] Yes its true - those chocolate eating surrender monkeys have more guns per household than America !

[2] and I'd love to be proved wrong on that
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